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Influence de Morgoth
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(06.10.2017, 14:01)Tikidiki a écrit : L'époque de Tolkien avec la tentative d'un autre empire, mais défait (je vous laisse imaginer qui de De Gaulle, Roosevelt ou Churchill est l'envoyé divin)

Ici je suis à 1000% pas d'accord (ce qui permet de relancer la discussion, pratique !). Il m'a semblé assez clair, à la lecture des quelques lettres que j'ai lues ça et là, que pour Tolkien, ce qu'il y a de vraiment orc, c'est le règne de la machine. Il y a cette lettre assez forte à Christopher Tolkien qui montre bien comme tout est troublé :

Tolkien, Letter 66 a écrit :An ultimately evil job. For we are attempting to conquer Sauron with the Ring. And we shall (it seems) succeed. But the penalty is, as you will know, to breed new Saurons, and slowly turn Men and Elves into Orcs. Not that in real life things are as clear cut as in a story, and we started out with a great many Orcs on our side. .... Well, there you are: a hobbit amongst the Urukhai.

De même :
Tolkien, Letter 75 a écrit :There is the tragedy and despair of all machinery laid bare. [...] Labour-saving machinery only creates endless and worse labour. And in addition to this fundamental disability of a creature, is added the Fall, which makes our devices not only fail of their desire but turn to new and horrible evil. So we come inevitably from Daedalus and Icarus to the Giant Bomber. It is not an advance in wisdom! This terrible truth, glimpsed long ago by Sam Butler, sticks out so plainly and is so horrifyingly exhibited in our time, with its even worse menace for the future, that it seems almost a world wide mental disease that only a tiny minority perceive it. [...] Well, I have got over 2 thousand words onto this little flimsy airletter; and I will forgive the Mordor-gadgets some of their sins, if they will bring it quickly to you. ....

Tolkien, Letter 96 a écrit :The destruction of Germany, be it 100 times merited, is one of the most appalling world-catastrophes. Well the first War of the Machines seems to be drawing to its final inconclusive chapter – leaving, alas, everyone the poorer, many bereaved or maimed and millions dead, and only one thing triumphant: the Machines. As the servants of the Machines are becoming a privileged class, the Machines are going to be enormously more powerful. What's their next move?

Tolkien, Letter 102 a écrit :The news today about 'Atomic bombs' is so horrifying one is stunned. The utter folly of these lunatic physicists to consent to do such work for war-purposes: calmly plotting the destruction of the world! Such explosives in men's hands, while their moral and intellectual status is declining, is about as useful as giving out firearms to all inmates of a gaol and then saying that you hope 'this will ensure peace'. But one good thing may arise out of it, I suppose, if the write-ups are not overheated: Japan ought to cave in. Well we're in God's hands. But He does not look kindly on Babel-builders.

La victoire de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale, l'emploi de la bombe, ce ne sont pas là des vraies victoires ; il me semble que c'est assez clair ! Sans doute, justement, le combat de notre âge se joue-t-il encore.

Pour le Déluge, oui, c'est une idée qui paraît bonne.
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Influence de Morgoth - par Chudar - 23.09.2017, 22:56

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