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Quel âge a Bree ?
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Balin a écrit :il me semble qu'au 2e Age lors de leur expéditions en Terre du Milieu, les 1er aventuriers Numenoréens rencontrent les hommes d'Eriador qui ont des ancêtres communs avec eux puisqu'ils decendent des gens de Beor (en grande partie), de Marach et des Haladins de Brethil (dans une moindre mesure) c. à d. des Edain fuyant Beleriand lors du 1er Age ou ayant aider l'host des Valar mais n'étant pas partis à Numenor.
(je dis çà de tête j'ai pas les sources Sad )

Tolkien a écrit :It was six hundred years after the departure of the survivors of the Atani [Edain] over the sea to Númenor that a ship first came again out of the West to Middle-earth and passed up the Gulf of Lhûn. Its captain and mariners were welcomed by Gil-galad; and thus was begun the friendship and alliance of Númenor with the Eldar of Lindon. The news spread swiftly and Men in Eriador were filled with wonder. Although in the First Age they had dwelt in the East, rumours of the terrible war 'beyond the Western Mountains' [i.e. Ered Luin] had reached them; but their traditions preserved no clear account of it, and they believed that all the Men who dwelt in the lands beyond had been destroyed or drowned in great tumults of fire and inrushing seas. But since it was still said among them that those Men had in years beyond memory been kinsmen of their own, they sent messages to Gil-galad asking leave to meet the shipmen 'who had returned from death in the deeps of the Sea.' Thus it came about that there was a meeting between them on the Tower Hills; and to that meeting with the Númenóreans came twelve Men only out of Eriador, Men of high heart and courage, for most of their people feared that the newcomers were perilous spirits of the Dead. But when they looked on the shipmen fear left them, though for a while they stood silent in awe; for mighty as they were themselves accounted among their kin, the shipmen resembled rather Elvish lords than mortal Men in bearing and apparel. Nonetheless they felt no doubt of their ancient kinship; and likewise the shipmen looked with glad surprise upon the Men of Middle-earth, for it had been believed in Númenor that the Men left behind were descended from the evil Men who in the last days of the war against Morgoth had been summoned by him out of the East. But now they looked upon faces free from the Shadow and Men who could have walked in Númenor and not been thought aliens save in their clothes and their arms. Then suddenly, after the silence, both the Númenóreans and the Men of Eriador spoke words of welcome and greeting in their own tongues, as if addressing friends and kinsmen after a long parting. At first they were disappointed, for neither side could understand the other; but when they mingled in friendship they found that they shared very many words still clearly recognisable, and others that could be understood with attention, and they were able to converse haltingly about simple matters.

Note 3 à Aldarion et Erendis, Contes et Légendes Inachevés : le Second Age (p.77 Ed. Pocket)

(Désolé pour les non-anglophones, mais il y a une grosse erreur dans la traduc', qui est proprement incompréhensible)
The gods forgot they made me, so I forget them too
I listen to the shadows, I play among their graves
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Quel âge a Bree ? - par Anón - 29.01.2005, 16:25
[Pas de titre] - par Meneldur - 29.01.2005, 19:53
[Pas de titre] - par Anón - 29.01.2005, 20:22
[Pas de titre] - par _Balin - 31.01.2005, 17:43
[Pas de titre] - par Anón - 31.01.2005, 19:06
[Pas de titre] - par ISENGAR - 01.02.2005, 09:00
[Pas de titre] - par _Balin - 02.02.2005, 12:25
[Pas de titre] - par Meneldur - 02.02.2005, 14:33
[Pas de titre] - par May - 28.03.2005, 17:50
[Pas de titre] - par Belgarion - 28.03.2005, 18:09
[Pas de titre] - par May - 05.04.2005, 17:39
[Pas de titre] - par _Balin - 06.04.2005, 09:04
[Pas de titre] - par Imorn - 06.04.2005, 11:44
[Pas de titre] - par _Balin - 06.04.2005, 15:07

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