Elesgal a écrit :J'aimerai savoir comment et quand Gandalf et Thorin se sont rencontrés?

Merci d'avance.

Elesgal a écrit :Ce forum avait l'air dédié à ce genre de question, et je trouve étonant qu'on me dise d'aller chercher la réponse moi-même...

Tolkien a écrit :But at last there came about by chance a meeting between Gandalf and Thorin that changed all the fortunes of the House of Durin, and led to other and greater ends beside. On a time Thorin, returning west from a journey, stayed at Bree for the night. There Gandalf was also. He was on his way to the Shire, which he had not visited for some twenty years. He was weary, and thought to rest there for a while.

Elesgal a écrit :Excusez-moi de ne pas mettre un CV à chaque fois que je pose une question.
Si je pose cette question, c'est que j'ai perdu l'information de la première rencontre de Gandalf et Thorin, et que je ne l'ai pas retrouvée en quelques recherches rapides.
Je pensai donc trouver de l'aide amicale et rapide avec des experts... je n'ai qu'un accueil froid, voir dédaigneux. Je me demande si vous lisez les chartes des forum qui impose de ne prendre à parti personne de peine de voir les forum tourner en pugilat.

Elesgal a écrit :Si certain sont dérangés par mon avatar, il n'est que temporaire et juste pour faire joli, ceux qui sont affreusement géné par la vue de Legolas n'ont qu'a détourner les yeux du bord gauche de l'écran... quand au pseudo de "Legolas", je n'avais pas l'intention de le prendre... enfin, je croyais que c'était un forum plus adulte que ça...

Elesgal a écrit :Ce forum avait l'air dédié à ce genre de question, et je trouve étonant qu'on me dise d'aller chercher la réponse moi-même...

Elesgal a écrit :Il me manque encore la date, mais je vais voir ça tout seul, a moins que quelqu'un l'ai sous la main...

elsgear a écrit :Si certain sont dérangés par mon avatar, il n'est que temporaire et juste pour faire joli, ceux qui sont affreusement géné par la vue de Legolas n'ont qu'a détourner les yeux du bord gauche de l'écran... quand au pseudo de "Legolas", je n'avais pas l'intention de le prendre... enfin, je croyais que c'était un forum plus adulte que ça...

Citation :je croyais que c'était un forum plus adulte que ça...

Elesgal a écrit :plusieurs scenarii

Elesgal a écrit :A ce propos, je me demandais si je pouvais citer ce site en remerciement ?(si jamais j'y trouve mon bonheur )

CLI,3rd A,the Quest of Erebor a écrit :"Those were my dark thoughts as I jogged along the road. I was tired, and I was going to the Shire for a short rest, after being away from it for more than twenty years. I thought that if I put them out of my mind for a while I might perhaps find some way of dealing with these troubles. And so I did indeed, though I was not allowed to put them out of my mind.
"For just as I was nearing Bree I was overtaken by Thorin Oakenshield, 1 who lived then in exile beyond the north-western borders of the Shire. To my surprise he spoke to me; and it was at that moment that the tide began to turn.
"He was troubled too, so troubled that he actually asked for my advice. So I went with him to his halls in the Blue Mountains, and I listened to his long tale. I soon understood that his heart was hot with brooding on his wrongs, and the loss of the treasure of his forefathers, and burdened too with the duty of revenge upon Smaug that he bad inherited. Dwarves take such duties very seriously.

(ça c'est le premier passage....suit ici la note suivante)

The meeting of Gandalf with Thorin is related also in Appendix A (III) to The Lord of the Rings, and there the date is given: 15 March, 2941. There is the slight difference between the two accounts that in Appendix A the meeting took place in the inn at Bree and not on the road. Gandalf had last visited the Shire twenty years before, thus in 2921, when Bilbo was thirty-one: Gandalf says later that he had not quite come of age [thirty-three] when he last saw him.

(puis earlier version....)

Gandalf had not yet played any part in the fortunes of Durin's House. He had not had many dealings with the Dwarves; though he was a friend to those of good will, and liked well the exiles of Durin's Folk who lived in the West. But on a time it chanced that he was passing through Eriador (going to the Shire, which he had not seen for some years) when he fell in with Thorin Oakenshield, and they talked together on the road, and rested for the night at Bree.

Elesgal a écrit :J'ai lu le SDA, les appendices, les Contes et légendes innachevés, les Contes perdus, le Silmarillion et le Hobbit plusieurs fois... j'oubli rien?

Citation :Faërie concerne les terres du milieu ???